Nobody ever accused Ted Nugent of being soft spoken, and he is not holding anything back when it comes to “Zombie Deer.” If you have not noticed the main stream media has picked up on CWD an and have mislabeled the deer as such.
Uncle Ted evidently just became fed up with the nonsense and goes on an epic rant about zombie deer. He also brings up the new research related to a CWD cure and vaccine.
Everybody whogives a shit about counterpunching the selfish tax $$$ grant bloodsuckersin our industry you damn well better write this down and wallpaperand carpetbombit here there everywhere to everyone to stop theanti-hunting anti-science anti-freedom mindless CWD scam orgy going on. Dr. James Kroll is indeed the top Whitetail deer biologist in America that will not waste our precious hard earned tax dollars with unnecessarybullshit. If you want to destroy hunting lie that people can getsick from venison when in fact it is the USDA & FDA corrupt bureaucratfailures that get people sick and kill us.
Drain the damn swamp build the damn wall crush the
OK, here we go!
1. What is your take on the “zombie deer” stuff that is suddenly in news headlines?
DrKroll-It is no more proper to refer to CWD as “zombie deer disease,” than it was to call it “mad deer disease” back in 2002! As far as I am concerned, the term is sensationalism at its worst; probably for headlines. The term “zombie” is defined as “a corpse said to be revived by witchcraft, especially in certain African and Caribbean religions.” This hardly fits the symptoms of deer in the clinical stages of the disease.
2-Is there any substance to the idea that an LSU
researcher hasdiscovered a potential “cure” for CWD? That it’s not prions but bacteria?
DrKeoll-Dr. Bastian has been promoting this theory for 20 years! As my friend Dr. Don Davis points out, prion researchersfor the same 20 years have unanimously rejected his theories. However, IF he is correct, and as it was reported that a vaccine world-wide and curecould be in reach in the next two years, it is grossly naïve to makesuch a claim. In order to register a vaccine and put it into use, the following has to happen:
a. Experimental data on vaccine safety and immunology efficacy has to be completed. (takes years)
b. Complete application for a Conditional License.
c. Protection efficacy experiments have to be completed, taking several more years.
d. Submitted for Complete License, which applies to just that one host species.
The fact they assert that this would be a cure, again is naïve, in
that vaccinesdo not cure anything and never have! First of all, CWD erodes holesin the brainstem, and brain tissue cannot regenerate itself!
They imply that it will be a protective vaccine, again very naïve!
There neverhas been a vaccine that protects 100% of individuals in the population. If it were developed, it would be useful to the Deer Farming Industry, but would not be feasible for wild deer. As we have vividly learnedfor other wildlife vaccines, delivery is the major problem. It hasto be species specificand have no effect on other species; and, be pickedup by all individuals in the population. Even the much rabies vaccines are not 100% effective. As far as I am concerned, as much as I would love for it to be true, it is never going to happen! toutedoral
The major impact of all this is, it gives false hopes to the entire deer and hunting industry.
3. In your estimation, where do we stand with CWD right now?
DrKroll-We still donot even know by what mechanism prions are distortedand the exact causal factors or agents producing the disease. Agencies have locked themselves into a perpetual testing loop that has noimpact on the spread or control of the disease. There is no mechanism developedto date that has been proven to control the spread of the disease. Research has been obsessively focused on “Frankenstein” experiments, in which infected material is injected into animals in a manner that does not occur in nature. The bottom line is that CWD appears to be spreading, but we cannot say that in true honesty, since testing is spreading; no one or agency has come up with a way to prevent the spread or eliminate the disease; and, massive killing of deer has no effect, since it is a frequency (not density) dependent disease. There are two basic questions that, if answered affirmatively, would causegenuine concern.
1. Does CWD have the potential to decimate
deer populations? 2. Can humans contract CWD? The answer to date is negative toboth. Yes, there have been two studies in Wyoming that seem to show a population effect, but both are troubled by confounding factors such as highmortality to EHD, mountain lion predation, competition with elk, and habitat changes due to grazing practices. In regard to human susceptibility, there are several peer-reviewed, published papers showingthis is highly unlikely. Some folks point to a study in Canada onmacaque monkeys, but it was never published nor substantiated by duplicatescience.
DrKroll-Yes, it has been assertedmany times that CWD has the potential to destroy deer populationsand deer hunting as we have known it! Ironically, the sensationalistreaction by professional biologists and the media has managedto accomplish the latter! When CWD showed up in Wisconsin, three tabloidspublished articles saying that three men had died from eating venisontainted with CWD. That proved to not only be untrue, but patentlyfalse! That alone caused a 12% decline in deer hunters in Wisconsin, and they have never returned. It now is affecting deer huntingand harvest, with a decline of as much as 15%; all because of panicby agencies and biologists. If I wanted to destroy hunting in America, of which about 80% is deer hunting, I would convince hunters andthe general public that one of the most healthy food items produced naturally in the deer woods was unwholesome and deadly! THAT would mean the end to deer hunting as we have known it; and, ironically it is my deep opinion that the white-tailed deer will still be with us! And, the wholesale destruction of habitat caused by over-population would indeed lead to declines in deer numbers.
While I do not agree with a lot of Ted Nugent’s views on CWD he brings up some very interesting questions about the new vaccine and potential cure that has recently been touted. I am interested to see how this plays out.